energy is a tax on -- energy prices are a tax on everyone. >> right. >> they're a tax on households, on business ls. and we are going to see much more available cheaper energy and that will lower the burden on households and crucially, as you pointed out -- and this is where i think you're going to see a knock-on effect, it makes manufacturing more viable in the u.s. so it's not just the jobs in the energy sector. it's the fact that all of them, especially natural gas, which is hard to transport, it starts to make sense to locate those factory where is that energy is. p other thing that i love about the energy is story is, as we've discussed a lot, one of my huge concerns about the u.s. economy is well-paying middle-class jobs. and i think that, you know, we can't neglect the economic reality that we are seeing the hollowing out of those jobs, huge downward pressure on wages. >> right. >> in the energy sector, that's not happening so much because in the actual production of natural resources you can't outsource those jobs. those are good jobs. >> can i give you an example of what she